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    I’ve tried 4-BMC (aka 4-Bromomethcathinone or Brephedrone) and it’s just a pure serotonin releaser with no dopaminergic or adrenergic action going on. There’s no euphoria just a relaxing feeling, and its only real use is in potentiating other stimulants and making them more empathogenic. 4-CMC should be similar in effects to 4-BMC and only good as a potentiator.

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    Also since neither of these are psychedelics I’ll move this over to Other Drugs where this belongs.

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    The odd thing is that 4-MMC is afaik not known to be as neurotoxic as 4-MA, but still – that is hardly any proof of anything at all.

    One important thing I wanted to add is this: the fact that people may not report horrible side-effects occuring right away does not prove that they are fine. Apparently there can still be chronic depletion and I guess the ability to generate new 5-HT being meddled with.
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